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Posted September 02, 2004

An old debt repaid, again and again

By Tom Regan

On the last night of the Republican National Convention, I left Madison Square Garden and went outside to gauge the mood on the streets. It was easy to see that the tension from Tuesday night had returned.

As I walked just outside the Garden, a police captain with a bullhorn started yelling at a group of about five protesters, and told them that if they wanted to protest, they had to go to the designated protest area on 9th Ave. Four of them started to move in the direction indicated, but one of the protesters started to walk in the other direction. [It's important to note here that lots of other people were moving in the same "other" direction at the same time.] The police captain yelled even more at the young man. Then the police captain roughly pushed a barricade out of the way and moved aggresively towards the young man.

Suddenly 50 other cops appeared out of nowhere. The young protester had literally not moved an inch since the captain had yelled at him the second time. He hadn't raised his hands, or made ANY kind of threatening gesture. It was totally the reaction of the police captain that the police themselves had reacted to. You would have thought the young man had pulled a rocket-propelled grenade from his backpack.

The young man just smiled, shrugged and moved in the direction that the captain had indicated. He probably didn't need to aggravate the police in the first place, but the reaction to his decision to "disperse" in the wrong direction was, in my view, WAY out of proportion.

That's when I saw her crossing the street. It was the picture that she carried that captured my attention. It was a picture of a handsome young man in uniform. Underneath the picture were the numbers "1944 - 1967."

"He was my first love," Clare Englandr told me. We were walking and talking together, since the police had told Clare that she wasn't allowed to stand still. "As if I might do something dangerous," she laughed.

The young man in the picture was Dick Allen. In 1967 he and Clare were dating. Dick received his notice to go to Vietnam.

"We weren't sure what to do. Back then we tended to do what we were told. He didn't want to, but Dick went. Two months after he got there he was shot through the eye."

Clare told me that Dick's death was devastating. She admits she fell apart for a long time. She believes that Dick's mother died of grief at the death of her only son.

"I kept thinking, why didn't I tell him to go to Canada or to do something else? I just couldn't forgive myself for not doing something."

So for the past 30 years, this soft-spoken woman from California had been protesting war. And now she was in New York to protest the war in Iraq.

"I really believe that Bush and Cheney are masters of deception," she told me. "I can't really believe that President Bush believes that God wants him to do this. I really can't. I'm a Quaker. The Bible says blessed are the peacemakers

"I know that Saddam Hussein was not a good person, and I'm not defending him. But war is not the answer."

We walked and talked a bit longer. She told me that she thought the police had done a good job and said several of them had been very nice to her. She also said she was more than a little afraid.

"I don't want to be arrested, but I want to do this."

After I left Clare, I moved up toward 7th Avenue. That where I met Jennifer Roberts, a young woman from New York. She was carrying a sign that said "Report the facts, not the rhetoric."

"This is my third night protesting," she told me. "But this is the first time I've been near the Garden."

So why did she come here tonight, I asked.

"Because George Bush is here. I try to protest whenever he comes to town. I just don't think he's doing a good job."

Like Clare, Jennifer also had good things to say about the police.

"Yea, they've been pretty good. One night we even started chanting 'Give the cops a raise.' "

Jennifer also did not want to be arrested. She wasn't interested in violence. That is why she had not come downtown on Tuesday night, when anarchist groups had said they would create havoc. But she wanted to make sure her voice was heard.

I left Jennifer and wandered more through the crowd. It seemed to me that the protesters gathered tonight were different from the ones I had seen on previous nights. They were older, and looked more determined. It looked as if many of them had come directly to Madison Square Garden from work.

I saw Clare once more. Then the police "locked down" the streets around the Garden and I was pushed up toward Times Square.

I saw Jennifer again on a street corner.

"Don't get arrested," I said to her.

She laughed. " I'll do my best."

And then she and Clare were gone. I hope they're OK.

'Get your Kerry flip-flops'

By Tom Regan

Not all the young people you meet on the streets near the Republican National Convention in New York are here to protest.

Ian is a College Republican from New Jersey. When I talked to him this afternoon, he was standing in Times Square selling Kerry "flip-flop" T-shirts. [The words "flip-flop" were imposed over a Heinz ketchup label].

"It's been a long haul," Ian told me with a smile. "People have been giving us a pretty hard time. My friend who's with me actually got pushed around this morning. Another guy debated me for an hour." He laughed. " It's pretty cool."

Ian says that the money he makes from selling the T-shirts will go to fund College Republican activities.

"I was here 13 hours yesterday and I've been working since nine o'clock this morning. My feet are killing me. But a lot of the [Republican] Senators and the delegates have been stopping by to tell us what a good job we're doing."

I asked Ian if he wasn't a little concerned to be selling pro-Bush T-shirts in such a Democratic town. "No," he said with a smile. "They wouldn't put me out here if I didn't know what I was doing."
"
Meanwhile, literally just down the block, Carmen, Tiffany, and Joseph are selling Kerry 'flip-flop' flip-flops. Joseph, who designed the sandals, told me his products are "way better" than anything that's being sold in the hotels where the Republicans are staying. "See, it's got Kerry's picture on it. So, everytime you take a step, you walk on his face."

I asked Joseph if he was a Republican. He gave me a sheepish grin. "No. We're all from Boston. I'm just here trying to make some money."

So I said to him. "Wait, according to Arnold [Schwarzenegger], that means you are a Republican."

"Yeah, we thought about that," said Carmen. "But we need the money more."

"Yeah the next thing you know I'll be using sweatshop labor," said Joseph. "After all these sandals do come from Thailand."

As I walked away I could hear the competing yells of "Get your Kerry flip-flops" coming from different ends of the block. Ah, real American entrepreneurial competition at its best.

Security goes up another notch

By Tom Regan

  • Coming up from Penn Station this morning onto 34 St. and 7th Avenue, it was obvious right away that the level of security, which had already been high, was now even higher. Although I would not have thought it possible, it seemed as if there were even more police patrolling the streets around Madison Square Garden.

    Although convention officials say they haven't raised security levels, there are definitely more checkpoints than there were Wednesday. There's little doubt that the two incidents Wednesday, where protesters were able to make their way into the convention center (one of them got to within 30 feet of Vice President Cheney last night) lie behind these new measures. But local law enforcement officials say the GOP has no one to blame but itself for this problem.

    It turns out that there are more than a few no shows for the convention, and organizers have been worried about too many empty seats in the Garden, so they've been rather liberal (if you'll pardon the pun) giving out passes to people who say they don't have one. And the delegates who are here have also been giving away their passes when they don't need them.

    I had a couple of young people approach me the other day and ask if they could "borrow" my pass, because they just wanted to go inside the Garden just to see what it was like. I don't know if they were protesters or not, but no way, no how, was that going to happen.

    It's my guess that word has gone around to various delegations to STOP IT RIGHT NOW!

  • While most GOP delegates have been really happy with how the convention has unfolded to date (everyody says Arnold's speech has been the best so far), there were a few murmurs of concern after Democratic Senator Zell Miller's speech last night. Several delegates I spoke with early this morning said it was real red meat for the GOP base, but thought it was way too harsh for the moderate and independent votes the GOP seeks.

    And it seems the Democrats feel the same way. Joe Lockhart, the former press secretary for President Clinton, was one of several Democratic guests at this morning's Monitor breakfast, and he said Sen. Miller's speech was a "tactical error" by the GOP and would be exploited by the Democrats in the weeks to come.

    It brings to mind Pat Buchanan speech from 1992.

  • There is another potential problem for the Bush campaign that is being talked about by members of the media housed in the old Farley Post Office Building. It seems that former Texas official Ben Barnes is about to go public with how he got President Bush out of having to serve in Vietnam and into the National Guard in the 60s. First place that I saw this mentioned was on Josh Marshall's Talking Points Memo blog Wednesday. Marshall says Barnes has kept quiet about what he did for years, but decided to break his silence after the attacks on John Kerry's war record "proved too much for him."

    Barnes has apparently taped a long interview with CBS that will air in the near future in which he will "describe the strings he pulled to keep Bush out of Vietnam and apparently more."

    Oh my. Personally, I wish we could just drop all this Vietnam stuff. President Bush has already admitted that Kerry served "honorably." But the Swiftboat Veterans ads have changed the calculus. Suddenly things President Bush and Senator Kerry did years ago are being used to judge how they might react to something today.

    As I've often said in My American Life, Iraq is not Vietnam. And I, for one, would hate to be judged today on things that I did two or three decades ago in terms of who I am and what I do today.

    Then again, maybe that's why I'm not in politics.

    Posted September 01, 2004

    Voices from the streets of New York

    By Tom Regan

    Over the past three days, I've spent a lot of time on the streets of New York, talking to people, with the emphasis on police and protesters. And they've got a lot of interesting things to say. Protesters are happy to tell you who they are, while the police will generally only open up if you promise not to use their names. Here is some of what they've been telling me.

  • Mia comes from California and works with Refuse and Resist, which is a New York-based antiwar group. When I walked up to talk to her Tuesday night, she was passing out "Give 'em the NO" stickers faster than you could give out free tickets to a Red Sox-Yankees game outside Fenway Park in Boston. The group is encouraging as many people as possible to wear the bright orange stickers on Thursday night when President Bush gives his speech at Madison Square Garden. Based on the number I saw her pass out in a ten minute span, a lot of people (not protesters I might add, but local New Yorkers) will be sporting them.

    So I figured I would start off our conversation with a direct question.

    "Are you a Democrat? Because I keep hearing all the people protesting out here are Democrats."

    Well, that made her pause for a moment. She laughed.

    "No, I am not a Democrat. I don't see any difference between Kerry and Bush on the issues I care about. If there was a Democratic president, I would be doing the same thing I'm doing right now."

    That was an answer, by the way, I heard all night long, from every single protester I talked with, young and old, all over midtown and downtown Manhattan.

    So why did you come all the way from California?

    "Because it's an important issue. I've been working on these kinds of issues for about ten years and it was important to be here this week."

    She was passing out stickers again.

    Do you think you're making a difference?

    "I don't know," she said without missing a beat. "I think so. You've been standing here for a while, you've seen how many people have taken stickers. Every little bit helps."

  • My relationship with the police has been mixed this week. After all, I was almost arrested last night as I covered a non-violent protest. I'm still puzzled as to why the police felt it necessary to arrest the people I was covering.

    But that aside, I have to say that the police have been pretty good this week. And they've had a pretty hard row to hoe.

    One report I saw said that police had been pulled in from every single borough and every single precinct for duty. Over 37,500 police are on duty in New York this week – that's more than half the size of the entire Canadian Armed Forces. And that duty was often 12-14 hours long, standing in the same spot, often without shade in hot, humid weather.

    And here's a part of the story that you may have missed: some of the protesters this week are police officers themselves. A group of police protesters have been following Mayor Bloomberg around all week, demanding that he give them a new contract. The entire New York City police force hasn't had one for two years.

    Just ask them about it.

    "It's my job to be here and I want to be here," one exhausted-looking officer told me, as he leaned against a column in front of a downtown hotel. "But the city is asking a lot of us and not giving us much back. We could have made this really tough on Bloomberg, but we don't work that way. But I'll tell you, once or twice I thought about getting in on a protest myself, just because I'm so p***ed off at the mayor."

    The result of this anger is that some police officers are taking the hiring exams for other police departments in communities on Long Island or in New Jersey, where they say the pay is better and the hours shorter.

    In a rather revealing interview done for the National Journal Convention Daily (which is being distributed at the convention this week), a reporter watched an older officer ask a group of cadets (who are also working 14-hour shifts this week) how many of them had applied to work for a better-paying suburban department, rather than in New York City.

    All of the cadets raised their hands.

  • My favorite police moment of the week, however, happened during the "Still We Rise" protest march I followed on Monday.

    At one point, I stepped out of the procession and onto the sidewalk to get a better view of just how long the march was. As I gazed down the street, I heard the voice of a police officer behind me. I turned to look.

    "Yeah, I've been on TV a few times," an officer said matter-of-factly to a very attractive woman. "Normally it's just a picture of me standing at a crime scene or on the edge of a crowd, but I've been there."

    Oh well. I guess not even a national poltical convention or a huge protest march can put a damper on flirting.


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